history provost of historical revolution-- so entitled by a certain Black Amazon
I'm relearning that fat people are expected to be losers. People think that we are fumbly or we are lazy, or that we are afraid to do outrageous and energetic things.
People constantly wave their own fears of becoming what you are in front of your face, without a thought as to how you will feel about it. Anti-fat thought is presumed to be correct thought.
6. You have no right to presume that our fatness means anything more than we weigh a certain amount over what's been deemed by capitalist white supremacist patriarchy as the "norm."7. Do not assume that we are lazy or unintelligent.8. Do not assume that we are weak.9. Do not assume that we are obsessive-compulsive about food.10. Do not assume that we are desperate for your friendship and/or your sympathy.11. Do not assume that we think that we are less attractive than you are, or that we hate our bodies, or that we strive to be like you.
Ugh. Glad to have your perspective on this. Your point about health concerns masking fat phobia was great -- yes, there are health concerns strongly related to obesity, but societal factors better explain obesity than "laziness" or any other stereotype hung on heavier people.The reality of the situation is, the video is really sweet! I think these women are cool for being comfortable dancing, and for being good at it (I'm neither of these things).
you know what drives me crazy is that ok, being overweight is supposedly based on over eating and laziness--so women are doing some moving (aka excersize)--some sexy as HELL moving--and all people can do is disrespect that moving???? It's like fat people are expected to shivel up and just disappear off the face of the earth. Youre not to appear in public, you're not to dance and move and laugh with friends, you're not to do anything that indicates you're a human being with a human need to move your body and laugh with other humans. (Brownfemipower)
BfP, you're so right. BTW, I always know who you are--sorry about the femi thing!
and kate, it is sweet... friends having a good time together
Okay, I saw the cool points about being overweight, and I agree with them and all that. Fat people have lives. Le gasp. Haters wanna hate, but they can't stop the shinin'. You know, it's cool, cool, but now I'm mad because the awesome bootyshakin' gene skipped me and they're hogging it all on the YouTube. So, umm, we need to fix this. :-p
What I like is that these women KEEP TAKING UP SPACE on the youtube. The more people piss and moan, the more they post. Which is awesome, IMO.
so yah, if these women are "concerning," why is no one "concerned" about thea)racist stuffb)skinny womeni mean presumably they have these 'problems' too. ok does not apply to racist but that stuff is there and pisses me off, anyway, why? b/c the women conform to society's cough patriarchy's cough norms. but i know what i'm saying is trite. to us. i wish those narrowminded people felt it was trite too.
I'm mad because the awesome bootyshakin' gene skipped me and they're hogging it all on the YouTube.i know! elaina, i love their defiance, too (too bad they have to be defiant to post a damn video!). thanks again for letting me excerpt.justme, the faux concern is what irritates me to no end! if you're really concerned, are you spending your time expressing it in a condescending manner on a website?
Excellent commentary. It is quite amusing how people associate fat with shame or guilt. People hate what they fear, and what most people in America fear is rejection. They associate fatness with rejection and fear it. I don't trust rail thin cooks, and I damn sure don't trust rail thin people who associate the words "shame", "guilt", "problem", or "worried" with big people. To be sure, black America in general needs to get its act together on the health tip, but it's no reason why we all shouldn't be able to enjoy ourselves.
Why strippercise and pole dancing are only for thin, white chicks with hawt bods!
yolanda, spot-on. my experience has been that some progressives are too "polite" to say anything so they cut at you with their silence--treating you like you're invisible.but it's no reason why we all shouldn't be able to enjoy ourselves we shouldn't be enjoying ourselves, philip, because we're supposed to be busy wallowing in that shame and guilt!
thanks for the link, aradhana!
OMG, I love it! I wish that I could dance like that. I agree with all - they are sexy and they can dance like no one's business. I can't believe that people are so rude to post such nasty nasty comments.
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Ugh. Glad to have your perspective on this. Your point about health concerns masking fat phobia was great -- yes, there are health concerns strongly related to obesity, but societal factors better explain obesity than "laziness" or any other stereotype hung on heavier people.
The reality of the situation is, the video is really sweet! I think these women are cool for being comfortable dancing, and for being good at it (I'm neither of these things).
you know what drives me crazy is that ok, being overweight is supposedly based on over eating and laziness--so women are doing some moving (aka excersize)--some sexy as HELL moving--and all people can do is disrespect that moving???? It's like fat people are expected to shivel up and just disappear off the face of the earth. Youre not to appear in public, you're not to dance and move and laugh with friends, you're not to do anything that indicates you're a human being with a human need to move your body and laugh with other humans.
(Brownfemipower)
BfP, you're so right. BTW, I always know who you are--sorry about the femi thing!
and kate, it is sweet... friends having a good time together
Okay, I saw the cool points about being overweight, and I agree with them and all that. Fat people have lives. Le gasp. Haters wanna hate, but they can't stop the shinin'. You know, it's cool, cool, but now I'm mad because the awesome bootyshakin' gene skipped me and they're hogging it all on the YouTube.
So, umm, we need to fix this. :-p
What I like is that these women KEEP TAKING UP SPACE on the youtube. The more people piss and moan, the more they post.
Which is awesome, IMO.
so yah, if these women are "concerning," why is no one "concerned" about the
a)racist stuff
b)skinny women
i mean presumably they have these 'problems' too. ok does not apply to racist but that stuff is there and pisses me off, anyway, why? b/c the women conform to society's cough patriarchy's cough norms.
but i know what i'm saying is trite. to us. i wish those narrowminded people felt it was trite too.
I'm mad because the awesome bootyshakin' gene skipped me and they're hogging it all on the YouTube.
i know!
elaina, i love their defiance, too (too bad they have to be defiant to post a damn video!). thanks again for letting me excerpt.
justme, the faux concern is what irritates me to no end! if you're really concerned, are you spending your time expressing it in a condescending manner on a website?
Excellent commentary. It is quite amusing how people associate fat with shame or guilt. People hate what they fear, and what most people in America fear is rejection. They associate fatness with rejection and fear it. I don't trust rail thin cooks, and I damn sure don't trust rail thin people who associate the words "shame", "guilt", "problem", or "worried" with big people. To be sure, black America in general needs to get its act together on the health tip, but it's no reason why we all shouldn't be able to enjoy ourselves.
Why strippercise and pole dancing are only for thin, white chicks with hawt bods!
yolanda, spot-on. my experience has been that some progressives are too "polite" to say anything so they cut at you with their silence--treating you like you're invisible.
but it's no reason why we all shouldn't be able to enjoy ourselves we shouldn't be enjoying ourselves, philip, because we're supposed to be busy wallowing in that shame and guilt!
thanks for the link, aradhana!
OMG, I love it! I wish that I could dance like that. I agree with all - they are sexy and they can dance like no one's business. I can't believe that people are so rude to post such nasty nasty comments.
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